A Quick Question About Exhaustion - Guild Wars Forums

Sir Tidus · Apr 26, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20

When you use a spell that causes exhaustion, does your current energy go down by 10 as well as your max energy? For example, if a warrior with 20/20 energy uses Shock, then will he end up at 5/10 energy? Thanks in advance.

Taisayacho · Apr 26, 2008, 01:21 AM // 01:21

Energy goes down by whatever the spell cost, max energy goes down by 5-10. Yes, you can go into negative energy :P

Tyla · Apr 26, 2008, 01:23 AM // 01:23

Well, say you're a Warrior using Shock at 10 energy with 20 energy max, you'll be using 5 energy on the usage of Shock, and the exhaustion would remove 10 from your max energy.

Sir Tidus · Apr 26, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28

So it's not like deep wound where the current amount goes down by the same amount as the max amount? If a warrior with 20/20 energy uses shock, how much energy will he have left?

Tyla · Apr 26, 2008, 01:32 AM // 01:32

10.
But if the Warrior uses Shock at 10/20 energy (No exhaustion), the Warrior will be at 5 energy.

Sir Tidus · Apr 26, 2008, 01:38 AM // 01:38

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Originally Posted by Tyla

10.
But if the Warrior uses Shock at 10/20 energy (No exhaustion), the Warrior will be at 5 energy.

Um, I'm pretty sure that's not right. Thanks anyways. I got it. I think it goes like this: if you use shock when at 20/20 energy, you will end up at 5/10 energy. If you use it at 10/20 energy, you will end up at -5/10 energy. So shock effectively costs 15 energy. Right?

Edit: I see now. Sorry, I was just being dumb.

Trax Reborn · Apr 26, 2008, 01:41 AM // 01:41

no, the quote you did was correct. it costs 5e, and takes off 10e max. so if you have 15/20e, then it removes 5e for energy cost, and makes max at 10e, so the exaustion doesnt matter there. if u cast at full energy, 20/20, then it costs only 5e still, but since it still goes down by 10e max, you are left with 10

RPGmaniac · Apr 26, 2008, 02:12 AM // 02:12

Exhaustion doesn't affect current energy, only maximum energy.

ogre_jd · Apr 26, 2008, 03:33 AM // 03:33

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Originally Posted by RPGmaniac

Exhaustion doesn't affect current energy, only maximum energy.

...but if the exhaustion would bring your maximum Energy to below your current Energy, your current Energy will go down to your new maximum.

Sir Tidus · Apr 26, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57

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Originally Posted by RPGmaniac

Exhaustion doesn't affect current energy, only maximum energy.

You sure? I found this on GWW: "As an example, using a spell that costs 5 energy and causes exhaustion at full energy, will subtract 5 energy from your pool and then grey out 10 of your maximum energy, effectively costing you 15 energy for the spell."

If exhaustion doesn't affect your current energy, then wouldn't it effectively cost 10 energy in this example?

Kale Ironfist · Apr 26, 2008, 04:14 AM // 04:14

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

You sure? I found this on GWW: "As an example, using a spell that costs 5 energy and causes exhaustion at full energy, will subtract 5 energy from your pool and then grey out 10 of your maximum energy, effectively costing you 15 energy for the spell."

If exhaustion doesn't affect your current energy, then wouldn't it effectively cost 10 energy in this example?

Exhaustion is -10 maximum energy, not -10 energy. I'm not sure where you found that quote, but it's wrong.

Sir Tidus · Apr 26, 2008, 04:16 AM // 04:16

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Originally Posted by Kale Ironfist

Exhaustion is -10 maximum energy, not -10 energy. I'm not sure where you found that quote, but it's wrong.

It's on GWW, as in Guild Wars Wiki.

BigDave · Apr 26, 2008, 05:15 AM // 05:15

That GWW quote is pretty badly worded. The cost of the skill and the exhaustion caused both work separately from each other. In your example of a warrior using Shock at 20 energy, the warrior would be left with 10 energy after using the skill. The game would take off the cost of the skill taking your energy down to 15/20 then apply exhaustion which will remove 10 energy from your maximum, leaving you with a new possible max of 10/10 energy. You already had 15 after using shock so it just removes the remaining 5 which you can no longer hold since your new max energy is only 10.

In another example, if an Ele were to use Shock at 70/90 energy then they would be left with 65 after using the skill. Their max energy would drop to 80 but their current energy is below that anyway so the skill will still only cost 5 energy, leaving them with 65/80.

It won't take energy away from your current energy pool, it only lowers the maximum energy you can hold. The skill will always cost what it says in it's description. The only exception to exhaustion adding to the cost of a skill is when exhaustion would push your maximum energy lower than what your current energy is...like with your warrior example.

I need a beer.

Kale Ironfist · Apr 26, 2008, 10:51 AM // 10:51

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

It's on GWW, as in Guild Wars Wiki.

I see why you made the mistake. An anonymous user decided to edit it recently (14th April) without peer review.

Sir Tidus · Apr 26, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16

I got it. Thank you very much everyone!

Commander Ryker · Apr 26, 2008, 11:38 PM // 23:38

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Exhaustion

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Originally Posted by wiki

Exhaustion reduces the character's maximum energy (similar to a Deep Wound in your energy bar) . When exhaustion occurs, the caster loses 10 maximum energy. The amount of maximum energy lost is shown at the right end of the energy bar (in its default position) as grayed out. Maximum energy is recovered at a rate of 1 point of energy every 3 seconds.

Exhaustion stacks. A character repeatedly casting exhaustion spells will repeatedly reduce their maximum energy, lower and lower each time. Exhaustion can lower maximum energy below zero. In this case, the deficit is regained at 1 point per 3 seconds before regaining positive maximum energy.

Apr 26, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20	#1
Sir Tidus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008	A Quick Question About Exhaustion When you use a spell that causes exhaustion, does your current energy go down by 10 as well as your max energy? For example, if a warrior with 20/20 energy uses Shock, then will he end up at 5/10 energy? Thanks in advance.

Apr 26, 2008, 01:21 AM // 01:21	#2
Taisayacho Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: England (GMT) Guild: The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI] Profession: R/	Energy goes down by whatever the spell cost, max energy goes down by 5-10. Yes, you can go into negative energy :P

Apr 26, 2008, 01:23 AM // 01:23	#3
Tyla Emo Goth Italics Join Date: Sep 2006	Well, say you're a Warrior using Shock at 10 energy with 20 energy max, you'll be using 5 energy on the usage of Shock, and the exhaustion would remove 10 from your max energy.

Apr 26, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28	#4
Sir Tidus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008	So it's not like deep wound where the current amount goes down by the same amount as the max amount? If a warrior with 20/20 energy uses shock, how much energy will he have left?

Apr 26, 2008, 01:32 AM // 01:32	#5
Tyla Emo Goth Italics Join Date: Sep 2006	10. But if the Warrior uses Shock at 10/20 energy (No exhaustion), the Warrior will be at 5 energy.

Apr 26, 2008, 01:41 AM // 01:41	#7
Trax Reborn Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Michigan Guild: wgk Profession: W/	no, the quote you did was correct. it costs 5e, and takes off 10e max. so if you have 15/20e, then it removes 5e for energy cost, and makes max at 10e, so the exaustion doesnt matter there. if u cast at full energy, 20/20, then it costs only 5e still, but since it still goes down by 10e max, you are left with 10

Apr 26, 2008, 02:12 AM // 02:12	#8
RPGmaniac Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005	Exhaustion doesn't affect current energy, only maximum energy.

Apr 26, 2008, 05:15 AM // 05:15	#13
BigDave Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Guild: The Sapphire Rose [TSR]	That GWW quote is pretty badly worded. The cost of the skill and the exhaustion caused both work separately from each other. In your example of a warrior using Shock at 20 energy, the warrior would be left with 10 energy after using the skill. The game would take off the cost of the skill taking your energy down to 15/20 then apply exhaustion which will remove 10 energy from your maximum, leaving you with a new possible max of 10/10 energy. You already had 15 after using shock so it just removes the remaining 5 which you can no longer hold since your new max energy is only 10. In another example, if an Ele were to use Shock at 70/90 energy then they would be left with 65 after using the skill. Their max energy would drop to 80 but their current energy is below that anyway so the skill will still only cost 5 energy, leaving them with 65/80. It won't take energy away from your current energy pool, it only lowers the maximum energy you can hold. The skill will always cost what it says in it's description. The only exception to exhaustion adding to the cost of a skill is when exhaustion would push your maximum energy lower than what your current energy is...like with your warrior example. I need a beer.

Apr 26, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16	#15
Sir Tidus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008	I got it. Thank you very much everyone!